Winter meets beater

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01/30/2014 at 11:26 • Filed to: None

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The longer-in-the-tooth among you might recall that article by Peter Orosz, in which he describes a night visit to fun driving roads in the hills around Budapest, in the winter, doing snow drifting. I know these roads well having driven them countless times in countless cars, in all sorts of weather. This is where the Drive homage with my MR2 was filmed for instance.

I also planned for the longest time to do this snow drifting there too, especially as one of the stretches isn't salted, because nature. It's just that I never had the proper tools for the job. I'm not cocksure enough to take expensive test-cars up there, and I never had an RWD car on my own before the MR2. That lovely piece of Japanese engineering was a good start, and on the few occasions I got the car and snow together, she worked well, but then I stopped using it in the winter because of the rust issue. So in actual fact, this winter beater idea was behind the whole 'buy a Peugeot 505' thing. It's light, it's worth less than most of the notebooks you read this on and it's RWD. I also got a factory LSD among the other bits and parts that came with the car, which was promising. However, it needed inspection and installment, while the other important parts of the car – brakes, engine, running gear – needed a good servicing, which I just didn't have the means to. Nevertheless, I got my shit together, and went out to the hills last year to at least try it, but the results were a bit underwhelming. I was out of depth as talent goes, and the shitty state the car was in didn't help either.

In 2013 I got around to have the needed repairs done to the 505 – completely new brakes and shocks all around, as well as some gearbox and clutch work means the car drives quite well now. (As an aside: these old Peugeot sedans, designed with third world roads in mind, really are indestructible, The car ran more than a year with no servicing and problems in all major components. No harm done at all.) The LSD got in the car too, so now all I needed was snow. I know you Americans would have been happy to send plenty, but it so happens, that here, the first proper snowfall of the season only occurred yesterday.

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First thing first I visited a grassy – now of course snowed-in - airfield. It's used by hoons all the time, so there are tracks too drive there. And you know what?! The old Peugeot suspensions design works on these snowed-in tracks like a motherfucking champ. And this isn't a prepared rally fighter at all, this is the factory setup. I had the widest grin on all the time.

Then after nightfall, my wife told me we should head out to the hills. She never experienced anything such before, but I didn't know if it'll work either. So did it work? Oh you bet your sorry ass it did. Lots of oppo were had, switchback turns in drift all the way were had, and many small shrieks from my wife too, looking at the road, and the oncoming Armco through the side window. No SR20, because pitch black night, but I will take the guys out there one day, if we get the chance and film it later.

Snow, RWD, LSD = hoon.

Not even horsepower is needed, I got like 70 or maybe 80 max in there, and it still worked.

Also, the road was far from empty. There were trailers parked in the last village and the sweet smell of racing gas lingered in the night air, as more-or-less rally-prepped cars drove the stretch of road up and down. Not my pics (pitch black, rememeber), but I saw a nice Mazda 323 GTX

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There was an older Legacy Turbo too, the one McRae rallied back in the day.

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And of course the ubiquitous Impreza GT.

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There was a nice looking Trueno too, but that didn't do much drifting, or maybe they were just finished by the time i got around.

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TL:DR: a small patch of forest buzzing with all sorts of hoons, happy about the first snowfall around here, and me getting full on snowdrift in a banger old RWD Peugeot, after years of preparation. Lovely night.


DISCUSSION (17)


Kinja'd!!! theuserformerlyknownasaluminumfoil > 505 - morphine not found
01/30/2014 at 11:33

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I really like that AE86.. for some reason that picture makes me drool over one.


Kinja'd!!! Agrajag > 505 - morphine not found
01/30/2014 at 11:44

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Awesome. Low horsepower and rear wheel drive is a blast in the snow. I love taking my 240d out as it's the only time I can spin the tires.


Kinja'd!!! 505 - morphine not found > theuserformerlyknownasaluminumfoil
01/30/2014 at 16:29

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I can completely see why, having seen quite a few Truenos in the flesh: they are lookers, if only in their quirky '80s way, but still. That hatchback body, the proportions, the lights, all seems just so right.


Kinja'd!!! theuserformerlyknownasaluminumfoil > 505 - morphine not found
01/30/2014 at 17:40

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For sure! I think it's the combo of the wheels, and the front bumper.. looks so tasty.. like Sushi.


Kinja'd!!! megalomaniac > Agrajag
02/05/2014 at 12:29

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Wrangler, in 2WD with Mud/Dirt Tires, with the front sway bar disconnected.

Ass end stays tight, and rotates easy, scando flick can be done fun and safe.

Worst comes to worse if you swing sideways in a mound of snow and get stuck just pop it in 4-wheel.


Kinja'd!!! Andypot > 505 - morphine not found
02/05/2014 at 12:56

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I used my Winter Beater to get into work this morning! Volvo 240! Nothing like sliding sideways and avoiding taxis in NYC!


Kinja'd!!! xxstich666xx > 505 - morphine not found
02/05/2014 at 13:25

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If you can ever find one, get a Crown Vic Police Interceptor. Basically it was a parts bin heaven. Lots of mustang and f150 parts all over so if something breaks, which they don't, parts are very easy to come across. Oh and they come with a very torquey and rugged 4.6l v8 and an LSD from the factory.


Kinja'd!!! 505Turbeaux > 505 - morphine not found
02/05/2014 at 13:37

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looking good man! My Turbeaux's havent seen snow in years


Kinja'd!!! duurtlang > xxstich666xx
02/05/2014 at 13:43

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Not if you, like the writer of this article, don't live in North America. The only Panthers I see are Lincoln hearses and stretched limos. And they're less common than Volvo hearses or stretched Mercedes. The F150 is slightly less uncommon than a Panther, but I could still go a full month without seeing one.


Kinja'd!!! Audistein > 505 - morphine not found
02/05/2014 at 15:31

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Seems like a lot of fun. Strangely, they actually sold the 505 in the United States for a while. One of my friends has a Turbo, and I've ridden in it but never driven it. According to the wiki article , there was also a diesel wagon sold in the US. Also, the song you used in the first video is to be used exclusive for driving at night; I don't know if you knew this, but it is a rule.


Kinja'd!!! rodassecondo > 505 - morphine not found
02/05/2014 at 16:03

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So cool. Back in the day my father bought a new 505 grd wagon 7 seats with the 2.5 na diesel, the "renforce" version. When i took my driving licence he still had it so it was the first car that i drove legally. Very very slow ( 76 hp ) but stable even in the wet. Not oversteery at all. If i recall, it was reliable. Better then the CX before.

What engine is yours ? Tks for sharing


Kinja'd!!! 505 - morphine not found > rodassecondo
02/05/2014 at 16:42

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The wagon has an even longer wheelbase than the sedan, and the sedan is very stable, so yeah, these work well in adverse conditions too. Mine isn't much more powerful, it's the 2.0 carb engine, that started life in the 404 back in the '60s. It had 96HP when factory new, should be a bit less these days.... I have all gas engines of the 505 listed here if you're interested.

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Kinja'd!!! Kylemaro > 505 - morphine not found
02/05/2014 at 16:52

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levin bro, not a trueno. how can you make that mistake on oppo


Kinja'd!!! crest07 > 505 - morphine not found
02/05/2014 at 17:00

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I remember our first peugeot 504. Indestructible car that never quit no matter how much abuse it got. Ahh the good old days when cars lasted longer than marriages nowadays


Kinja'd!!! 505 - morphine not found > Kylemaro
02/05/2014 at 17:10

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Oh bugger, You're completely right. I posted the wrong picture, my only defense should be that you're the first to notice after 2,474 pageviews, so others too have missed the part about the headlights being fixed.

However, truth be told, i'm really not sure if the one i saw that night was a Levin or a Trueno. It was a hatchback, but pop-up, or fixed? Dunno.

Should have stuck with calling it AE86.


Kinja'd!!! 505 - morphine not found > Audistein
02/05/2014 at 17:16

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I made that film ages ago, right after the time the film was released. Yeah, i get why you would only use it on night shots, but I didn't know it was a rule, and certainly haven't known back then in 2011 when i made this.

As per 505 in the US, a fun fact: Peugeot only sold the turbo gas engines (150-180 HP) in wagon bodies in the US. Anywhere else those were sedan-only. Make a case for that, if you can.


Kinja'd!!! Kylemaro > 505 - morphine not found
02/06/2014 at 18:42

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no harm no foul, loves me some trueno though